[Yeah, no, she's just gonna give him a new bag, she can't sit in this smell. It's not his fault, sort of, but she isn't going to just sit here and pretend there's nothing wrong. He can stay seated, though, she'll just move around him, leaning over him to grab the bag and tie it up.]
[ stiles has half the mind to stop her, insist that he can take his own sick bag out and dispose of it somewhere else, but... well, she's already doing it by the time he even realizes that's what she's doing, so it's past the point of sparing himself the embarrassment of someone else cleaning up his vomit. he'll just have to... owe her, or something.
he takes a couple of long seconds to think instead, lips pressed together. he sits up a little, chooses his words carefully. ]
In sophomore year, there was this guy. I mean, there still is this guy, he's still around, but that's not the point. I'd only just met him back then. Didn't know him very long, but he wanted to... change me. [ stiles wets his lower lip, lifts his free hand to absently pinch at the skin at the edge of his jaw. ] He wanted me to become something I wasn't. And it was tempting. It was really tempting, what he was offering, if I'd just let him change me. He said I could be just like him — and that's what stopped me.
I didn't want to be like somebody else. I didn't want to become some other person because it's what someone else wanted or what they thought I should be, or because I thought other people might like me better if I changed. I like me. I like who I am — most of the time, anyway. If other people don't, well.
[ i mean. there's a difference between putting on a plaid shirt and accepting the bite from a psychotic werewolf, but there's only so much of a point he can make without giving away other peoples' secrets. ]
[The good news: she absolutely doesn't suspect what he's truly alluding to. She might someday, because she's sharp and clever and she knows more than most about the supernatural, but it isn't today. The bad: she absolutely thinks he's talking about being offered opium or some other kind of drug.]
That I can agree with.
[She sets a new bag in the can and settles back on the couch. Her posture is just a touch more relaxed; this is fun for her.]
But perhaps we're misunderstanding each other. How do I put this . . .
[Hmm.]
Tell me what you want to do in your life. Do you have a particular passion you want to follow?
[ if only stiles' life were that... normal, but stiles traded your usual teenage experiences for... werewolves and banshees and all other manner of supernatural creatures. cheating death. submitting to it. it's a wonder he's actually still alive.
stiles stretches to set his water down, his left knee bouncing lazily. he twists his hands together loosely, then crosses his arms over his chest, expression thoughtful. recently (before he ended up here, of course), he and his dad had discussed his future and what it might entail as far as careers go. he'd just helped to save a lot of people, his friends, and it'd felt great, but— but it wasn't enough, didn't last long enough to satisfy him. he wanted more.
stiles blinks, still a little caught in the memory of the last real conversation with his father. he wonders, briefly, if he's doing okay. hopes he's not making himself sick trying to find stiles. ]
Law enforcement. My dad's a sheriff, so I've always kind of been - around all of that. [ he pauses briefly. ] Maybe the FBI. I like research, investigating. Helping people, I guess.
All right. So . . . tell me how those in law enforcement look. I'm not talking about uniforms, I'm saying . . . what sort of image do they try and cultivate?
[Will this translate? She's not sure. If it fails, she can always simply tell him outright, but she likes to teach.]
[ stiles presses his lips together, mouth pinching slightly for a moment. he's getting a little frustrated, but not enough to say anything just yet. sure, he's not modeling world-famous designers down a runway, but he's never been critcized this much for frickin plaid. for being comfortble.
there are people that go to the grocery store in their pajamas rosalind. slippers, hair in rollers, in the middle of the day. plaid and khakis and gently-used brand-name sneakers are basically high-fashion in comparison.
he says none of this, though. just exhales through his nose, looks at her pointedly. ]
My best friend's dad is — he works for the FBI. Wears a blazer, sometimes — not a uniform, but a personal choice, I guess —, and you know what? It doesn't make him a different person. He's still an asshole no matter what he wears. His image is still 'hey, I'm kind of a dick, like, 99% of the time'.
[ to be fair, rafael mccall has... well, he hasn't redeemed himself entirely, but he doesn't deserve as much of stiles' hate as he used to, and stiles is aware of that. rafael might have fucked up once upon a time, but he also saved stiles from taking a bullet to the head, and he's been more than helpful the few times it really mattered. ]
He's also still... really good at his job, too. Fancy clothes or not. People know he's good at his job because he's good at his job. [ he leans his head back against the back of the couch, breathes out. ] Can you just — say whatever it is you want to say? Because I'm pretty sure we're just not going to agree so just—
[All right, fair enough. She'd been thinking of dropping this anyway, and it's clear he's getting annoyed.]
My point is simply . . .
[. . .]
In my field, in order to be taken seriously, I had to be perfect. I had to be better than anyone else, because everyone assumed I was worse, thanks to my gender. I was funny when I was in graduate school; I was a threat when I entered the field. So I could give them no room to criticize me-- my work was flawless, I knew they couldn't get me there, and so they'd look at the other parts of my life.
So I dressed perfectly. I was feminine enough to remind them of what I was, yet masculine enough to fit in. I wore my hair fashionably, I painted my nails . . . and I kept my emotions under lock and key. I made sure they couldn't label me as anything but a perfect scientist, because that was all I was.
People will take any excuse they can to tear you down, Stiles. That is my point. And that success often comes at a price, especially if you're different in any way. So subvert them from the start, and don't give them a chance.
[ stiles listens. he considers. he understands, for the most part, where she's coming from when it comes to her experience, and he's not looking to discredit that, or her, in any way.
but he doesn't necessarily agree that holding herself up to some ridiculous standard was the only move she could have made to get herself the respect she so obviously deserves, but he doesn't have to agree, and he knows that too. his approval or disapproval of the way women were regarded back in her day (and even now, in stiles' time) does not and will not change the past.
it's not that surprising that she's reminded him of lydia again, even if the parallel is somewhat opposite. lydia used to be so caught up in being the perfect girl that she hid her intelligence, played the part of the glamorous, ditzy, team-captain's girlfriend. but stiles saw through it, recognized her mask and pulled it away.
stiles tilts his head a little, drums his fingers against his ribs, and ignores a minor wave of nausea that ebbs away just as quickly as it comes. ]
... You remind me of this girl I know. Back home. Like, sometimes it's like looking at future-Lydia, and it's — weird. Kinda cool, too. She's really smart, too, only she pretended not to be for a while, because she was — I don't know, afraid people might look at her differently, I guess. [ he sits up a little, turns slightly to face rosalind more directly. ] There's this... belief, or. Or, just, this dumb assumption that beautiful girls can't also be smart, or smart girls can't also be beautiful, so she picked the option she thought —, well, I don't really know what she thought.
My point is, once she realized that being herself was more important than worrying about what people might think about her, she stopped caring. And nothing changed. She's still Lydia. She's still smart. She's still beautiful. She's still going to win a — [ shit, what was it? ] — a fields metal, because nothing anyone can say about her makes her any less qualified.
[ he may have lost his actual point there in all that, but he tries to bring it back around, at least. ]
Why did it matter what people could have said about you? [ he leans into the back of the couch, props his head in his hand. ] You do know I'd have to change a whole lot more than my clothes to avoid judgement, right? Like, flannel shirts are the least of my worries.
[God, but that sounds . . . it sounds ideal, honestly. A world in which she could be whatever she wanted, say whatever she wanted to say and wear what she'd like, and yet still succeed? It sounds almost impossible, frankly, and she has her private doubts as to whether Stiles has really grasped the whole truth, but that's a debate that will go nowhere. At least his Lydia had succeeded enough that he hadn't noticed any significant drawbacks.]
It mattered a great deal.
[She says it simply. She'll elaborate if he asks, but--]
You can dress as you like. But I suppose my other point is that . . . it helps to control your reputation, molding it as you like.
[She tips her head, watching him for a few seconds, and then:]
What is it you're alluding at, that sets you apart.
[ stiles considers his reputation. does he even have one? he's known for being sarcastic, he's known for being smart, a little bit of a mess. distracted, sometimes. logical, practical, as realistic as one can be when your town is a literal supernatural beacon (it's in the name). his reputation is different, depending on who you speak to. jackson would probably say he's an idiot, a nerd, a loser. isaac might say he's weak and annoying. scott might say he's the smartest, funniest guy he knows. his dad might say he's a nuisance, but with a fondness that suggests he loves him for it.
it's all a matter of perspective, and how much he takes to heart.
stiles shrugs. there's no point in arguing this anymore right now. he likes his plaid and his print screen tees and a little judgement from people he likely doesn't know very well isn't really on his radar. ]
Uh, nothing that... spectacular? I mean, like — I have ADHD, for one, so people just assume I'm a - spazz, or whatever. My dad's the sheriff back home, so that automatically makes me a snitch, right? When in reality I've lied to my dad more times than I've probably told him the truth. [ he pauses, doesn't seem particularly proud of that, but then keeps going ] I have anxiety, and sometimes it gets really bad to the point that it interferes with—
[ stiles stops, waves his hand dismissively, leans back into the couch. ]
It's just, lots of stuff. Lots of stigmas, but I know what I'm capable of.
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[Yeah, no, she's just gonna give him a new bag, she can't sit in this smell. It's not his fault, sort of, but she isn't going to just sit here and pretend there's nothing wrong. He can stay seated, though, she'll just move around him, leaning over him to grab the bag and tie it up.]
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he takes a couple of long seconds to think instead, lips pressed together. he sits up a little, chooses his words carefully. ]
In sophomore year, there was this guy. I mean, there still is this guy, he's still around, but that's not the point. I'd only just met him back then. Didn't know him very long, but he wanted to... change me. [ stiles wets his lower lip, lifts his free hand to absently pinch at the skin at the edge of his jaw. ] He wanted me to become something I wasn't. And it was tempting. It was really tempting, what he was offering, if I'd just let him change me. He said I could be just like him — and that's what stopped me.
I didn't want to be like somebody else. I didn't want to become some other person because it's what someone else wanted or what they thought I should be, or because I thought other people might like me better if I changed. I like me. I like who I am — most of the time, anyway. If other people don't, well.
[ i mean. there's a difference between putting on a plaid shirt and accepting the bite from a psychotic werewolf, but there's only so much of a point he can make without giving away other peoples' secrets. ]
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That I can agree with.
[She sets a new bag in the can and settles back on the couch. Her posture is just a touch more relaxed; this is fun for her.]
But perhaps we're misunderstanding each other. How do I put this . . .
[Hmm.]
Tell me what you want to do in your life. Do you have a particular passion you want to follow?
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stiles stretches to set his water down, his left knee bouncing lazily. he twists his hands together loosely, then crosses his arms over his chest, expression thoughtful. recently (before he ended up here, of course), he and his dad had discussed his future and what it might entail as far as careers go. he'd just helped to save a lot of people, his friends, and it'd felt great, but— but it wasn't enough, didn't last long enough to satisfy him. he wanted more.
stiles blinks, still a little caught in the memory of the last real conversation with his father. he wonders, briefly, if he's doing okay. hopes he's not making himself sick trying to find stiles. ]
Law enforcement. My dad's a sheriff, so I've always kind of been - around all of that. [ he pauses briefly. ] Maybe the FBI. I like research, investigating. Helping people, I guess.
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[Will this translate? She's not sure. If it fails, she can always simply tell him outright, but she likes to teach.]
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there are people that go to the grocery store in their pajamas rosalind. slippers, hair in rollers, in the middle of the day. plaid and khakis and gently-used brand-name sneakers are basically high-fashion in comparison.
he says none of this, though. just exhales through his nose, looks at her pointedly. ]
My best friend's dad is — he works for the FBI. Wears a blazer, sometimes — not a uniform, but a personal choice, I guess —, and you know what? It doesn't make him a different person. He's still an asshole no matter what he wears. His image is still 'hey, I'm kind of a dick, like, 99% of the time'.
[ to be fair, rafael mccall has... well, he hasn't redeemed himself entirely, but he doesn't deserve as much of stiles' hate as he used to, and stiles is aware of that. rafael might have fucked up once upon a time, but he also saved stiles from taking a bullet to the head, and he's been more than helpful the few times it really mattered. ]
He's also still... really good at his job, too. Fancy clothes or not. People know he's good at his job because he's good at his job. [ he leans his head back against the back of the couch, breathes out. ] Can you just — say whatever it is you want to say? Because I'm pretty sure we're just not going to agree so just—
[ he waves one hand vaguely. ]
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My point is simply . . .
[. . .]
In my field, in order to be taken seriously, I had to be perfect. I had to be better than anyone else, because everyone assumed I was worse, thanks to my gender. I was funny when I was in graduate school; I was a threat when I entered the field. So I could give them no room to criticize me-- my work was flawless, I knew they couldn't get me there, and so they'd look at the other parts of my life.
So I dressed perfectly. I was feminine enough to remind them of what I was, yet masculine enough to fit in. I wore my hair fashionably, I painted my nails . . . and I kept my emotions under lock and key. I made sure they couldn't label me as anything but a perfect scientist, because that was all I was.
People will take any excuse they can to tear you down, Stiles. That is my point. And that success often comes at a price, especially if you're different in any way. So subvert them from the start, and don't give them a chance.
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but he doesn't necessarily agree that holding herself up to some ridiculous standard was the only move she could have made to get herself the respect she so obviously deserves, but he doesn't have to agree, and he knows that too. his approval or disapproval of the way women were regarded back in her day (and even now, in stiles' time) does not and will not change the past.
it's not that surprising that she's reminded him of lydia again, even if the parallel is somewhat opposite. lydia used to be so caught up in being the perfect girl that she hid her intelligence, played the part of the glamorous, ditzy, team-captain's girlfriend. but stiles saw through it, recognized her mask and pulled it away.
stiles tilts his head a little, drums his fingers against his ribs, and ignores a minor wave of nausea that ebbs away just as quickly as it comes. ]
... You remind me of this girl I know. Back home. Like, sometimes it's like looking at future-Lydia, and it's — weird. Kinda cool, too. She's really smart, too, only she pretended not to be for a while, because she was — I don't know, afraid people might look at her differently, I guess. [ he sits up a little, turns slightly to face rosalind more directly. ] There's this... belief, or. Or, just, this dumb assumption that beautiful girls can't also be smart, or smart girls can't also be beautiful, so she picked the option she thought —, well, I don't really know what she thought.
My point is, once she realized that being herself was more important than worrying about what people might think about her, she stopped caring. And nothing changed. She's still Lydia. She's still smart. She's still beautiful. She's still going to win a — [ shit, what was it? ] — a fields metal, because nothing anyone can say about her makes her any less qualified.
[ he may have lost his actual point there in all that, but he tries to bring it back around, at least. ]
Why did it matter what people could have said about you? [ he leans into the back of the couch, props his head in his hand. ] You do know I'd have to change a whole lot more than my clothes to avoid judgement, right? Like, flannel shirts are the least of my worries.
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It mattered a great deal.
[She says it simply. She'll elaborate if he asks, but--]
You can dress as you like. But I suppose my other point is that . . . it helps to control your reputation, molding it as you like.
[She tips her head, watching him for a few seconds, and then:]
What is it you're alluding at, that sets you apart.
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it's all a matter of perspective, and how much he takes to heart.
stiles shrugs. there's no point in arguing this anymore right now. he likes his plaid and his print screen tees and a little judgement from people he likely doesn't know very well isn't really on his radar. ]
Uh, nothing that... spectacular? I mean, like — I have ADHD, for one, so people just assume I'm a - spazz, or whatever. My dad's the sheriff back home, so that automatically makes me a snitch, right? When in reality I've lied to my dad more times than I've probably told him the truth. [ he pauses, doesn't seem particularly proud of that, but then keeps going ] I have anxiety, and sometimes it gets really bad to the point that it interferes with—
[ stiles stops, waves his hand dismissively, leans back into the couch. ]
It's just, lots of stuff. Lots of stigmas, but I know what I'm capable of.