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Will you show me?

[A beat, and then she waves a hand and clarifies:]

Not now. One wondrous task at a time. But I'd be interested in watching the transformation sometime.

[She supposes he does the same thing with the whip that he had with the sunflower: changed the properties in order to make it into a weapon. Making the stem longer, yes, but also thicker and harder, getting rid of the blossoms, perhaps, but not the thorns, no . . .

Odd. And yet she can see the benefits, she supposes. It seems a great deal of effort when one might just buy a whip, but what does she know.

She waits until he's stopped chopping before darting her fingers forward to steal another piece of apple, because they're sweet and she can be childish, on occasion, especially in front of him.]

Of course. It goes rather fast, typically — ah. That's right, you don't normally see me grow plants in haste, do you? Generally I slow them down when you're around, so that you can watch.

[Which is, really, a sort of offhand but incredibly significant thing to admit, isn't it.]

Normally it's one smooth motion. From a seed in my hair to a weapon in my hand in a matter of seconds, one draw and snap of the wrist.

[God, he can do it that quickly? Rosalind blinks, a little taken aback despite herself. And though she'd just thought that they ought to concentrate on the pie instead of more unsavory things, well. She can't ever help but be curious about the demonic world.]

Was it always like that? Or was that something that came with age?

I suppose it's a little of both, really. Certainly it's a technique I've refined, to hone it to its peak efficiency. But I don't know that it's really something that I had to work up to from a baseline of zero, either.

[He shrugs a little, chopping another apple in half and beginning to cube it; as he does, he makes sure to trim off one particularly good-sized piece and leave it at the edge of the cutting board for her to sneak again.]

Would it surprise you to know that as demons go, an acquaintance of mine can kill at speeds that make my own technique with the whip look positively glacial?

Precisely how fast do you mean?

[She can't say she's surprised, precisely, if only because demons seem to sharply exceed any limitations she normally thinks of. Why shouldn't his friend be able to achieve such speeds? He can take the seed of a rose and turn it into a whip, so why not?]

And is it the demon you've mentioned before?

Yusuke, a friend, and I witnessed him kill a foe — he uses a sword as his weapon of choice, I should mention. I asked him afterwards how many times he'd slashed his enemy, when he'd lunged at him.

Yusuke counted seven or eight discrete strikes. I'd perceived the first two, and then afterward had only followed the flashes of light. Our third friend hadn't been able to account for any of his slashes at all.

[There's no need for a dramatic pause, and so he doesn't bother with one; he simply returns calmly to his cutting with a hint of a fond smile on his face.]

He'd struck sixteen times. So yes — Hiei is quite fast.

[Hiei, she notes to herself. Hiei the demon, who has a sister and dislikes the fact his friend has an attraction to said sister, who is so fast as to simply surpass what the eye can follow.]

To say the least.

[She finally grabs for that bit of apple, though she doesn't yet eat it.]

There was . . . you remember, the first time we met, I told you of those vigours Fink made? He was developing one once that would make you that fast, right up until I pointed out that giving people the ability to zip about on a flying city likely wouldn't end well.

Then again, the man had already made a vigour that let you throw fire from your fingertips.

[His lip curls at the mention of the name Fink, but he says nothing about it, choosing instead to focus in on the point of what she's saying rather than the trappings it comes in. A human being who makes scientific advancements that mimic the abilities of demons...

Well, it's hardly unheard of, certainly, but humans with unusual interests in demons and their abilities have historically never been...wonderful, have they.]

Do you know how he did it? Certainly he was distilling the energy for it from...somewhere?

Mm, it never got past the planning stages. I think the general idea was to suck the energy from the earth itself, though. He used the same method for another vigor.

[She pops the apple into her mouth and then adds:]

Bucking Bronco, he so cleverly named it. If consumed, one could-- [She gestures upwards with two fingers.] --simply lift a person off the ground. The ground beneath one's victim would rupture. It was intended to be used solely by the police force, as was--

[She wrinkles her nose.]

--Devil's Kiss, but that hardly lasted.

What a positively absurd man.

[That's a polite way of putting it, probably. Certainly there are other words he could use.

He finishes up with his chopping, then picks up the apples and transfers them into a mixing bowl, to which he begins to add sugar and cinnamon to coat them.]

...There were humans like him back home, I suspect. Notorious ones. I suppose you might say, just brilliant enough to be dangerous, and amoral enough to use that brilliance ruthlessly.

There always are.

[It would be easy to fall into the trap of thinking she's one of those humans. Certainly she's brilliant, and they'd discussed her lack of morality during all that mirror madness. But while she lacks in morality, it isn't that kind. Rosalind has her limits, and Fink had always happily skipped past them.]

. . . how aware were humans of demons, in your world?

The majority remain blissfully unaware of them. That's Spirit World's doing, in large part; I believe it's a standing aspect of Yusuke's job description to operate on behalf of Spirit World in the human realm to maintain that status quo, actually.

[He pauses, as much to reflect on his thought as to dig around for a pair of spoons to use toward tossing the apples in their sweet coating.]

I think I've also mentioned the Kekkai Barrier — it's a net, essentially, erected by Spirit World between Makai and the human realm. It only catches the most powerful of demons, preventing the most heinous of threats from reaching the humans. Lesser demons, however, have a way of slipping through.

Envision it as a...tunnel, of sorts. A narrow space through which a demon might slip through, and emerge in the human realm.

[His hands tighten slightly on the handles of the spoons.]

A small subgroup of very rich humans, however, have been known to stake out those tunnel entrances and capture unsuspecting demons who slip through. Those ones are aware. So I suppose I'll ask you: what do you suppose Fink would do, if he were to find himself in that same situation?

[She knows, of course. Not just because that sort of person is so terribly predictable, but because she knows Fink so well. Spend nearly twenty years in the general company of a man, and soon you start knowing how he works, whether you'd like to or not.]

Profit from them.

[This is horrid, perhaps, but she thinks Kurama, caught in such a trap. What would Fink do to him? Ah, but the better question is: what wouldn't he do?]

Exploit them for their abilities. Force them into some kind of service. [. . .] Sell them to other wealthy elites, for both their exotic quality and the sheer novelty of owning a demon. And I think . . .

[She hesitates, then, her eyes lingering on the way his fingers have gone tight around the handles of the spoons.]

I've told you of some of his misdeeds, but they largely concerned myself and Robert. What he did to those he employed-- [she emphasizes the word in distaste, because quite frankly owned was the far better term for those wretched souls in Finkton,] was far worse. There are few cruelties he did not inflict upon them. And I know, because he did not hesitate to brag about it later on.

...Rosalind. There's something I want to tell you, before I go on, and I hope you'll take it to heart.

[He glances up at her, all green eyes and a solemn expression, but in a way that for once actually makes him look young from its earnest sincerity, as opposed to old beyond his apparent years.]

You are brilliant. And you are ruthless. But never forget that whatever evils you may or may not embody, necessary or otherwise, you are nowhere close to comparable to the worst that humanity has to offer.

[Her breath catches, and she stares back at him, her eyes widening in surprise.

It isn't as if she'd believed that about herself, of course. She's aware of her crimes, but that awareness is just that: knowledge of a fact, unburdened by an inordinate amount of guilt or self-loathing. She and Robert have atoned, and so while nothing can make up for the fact they committed those crimes to begin with, they at least have made things right.

No. It's not some absolution of guilt that has her pausing. It's just--

It's the sincerity in his voice, maybe. It's the underscoring of the fact that they're on the other side of her confession, and he still cares for her. This is an assurance, and the raw honesty of it is what leaves her a little stunned.

But there's an implication there, woven between his words, one she'd be a fool not to see.]

What did they do?

They sold the thrill of murder.

[He says, quietly and simply.]

The experience of torturing and slaughtering the exotic novelties that came through the tunnel. They didn't keep them or exploit them. They held parties and reveled in murdering them in increasingly elaborate and creative ways.

. . . ah.

[Her expression doesn't change a bit, but the color drains from her cheeks. Her fingers curl and uncurl, and she stares at the counter as she thinks about all the implications of that. They unfold one by one, a little layer of horror that she realizes and then pushes away, only to reveal yet another beneath it.

Parties, first of all. Parties, plural. Suppose the demonic population is as numerous as humanity is. Kurama had once told her lesser demons were far, far more common than powerful ones, so surely there was a steady stream of them emerging from the tunnel. So how many had been killed, then? How many-- hundreds, surely. Hundreds, tortured and slaughtered for the amusement of the elites of--

Not Columbia. But it's their faces that fill her mind as she imagines this. Fink and Saltonstall and Marlowe, all those pompous, wealthy men who'd made up Columbia's upper crust, all those Founders, this would be precisely up their alley. The slaughter of creatures so beneath them they didn't even register as people anymore. Just things. Things that lived and died for their amusement.

Another layer: Kurama somehow knows of this, and yet that such practices must have been a relative secret, or else no demon would ever leave Makai. How precisely had he learned of it? But there's only two real options available there. Either Kurama had known of a person who had escaped, and listened to their tale. Unlikely, given that she imagines such a tale would spread. Which leaves her with the other option: that Kurama had, at some point in his long life, experienced such an event firsthand.

She looks over at him. His expression is as still as hers, but there's something deadened in his gaze that chills Rosalind.]

. . . your friend's sister. The one who cried gems. They coerced her to cry, you said. Were these the same people?

[But Urameshi had rescued her. And it's absurd, really, that such a thought is comforting, when hundreds have already died, but perhaps it's because she has more of a connection to the girl than some anonymous demon.]

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I believe it's very likely. The one who had her was something of a collector, and housed a menagerie of demons on the premises of his estate. But he was one member of a group.

[He hums under his breath, turning his attention back to his bowl of work and stabbing at it with the spoons a little more forcefully than necessary.]

That group of people comprises a group of men so wealthy that normal entertainments have lost all meaning to them. So they gamble, or engage in black market crimes, because the only things left to them in the world are the prospect of increasing their income, and the thrill of victory.

I'm familiar with the type.

[Not to that precise degree, but oh, that had been Fink all over, hadn't it? He'd been the wealthiest man by far in Columbia, and yet he was obsessed with increasing his fortune in all kinds of ways. And in the meantime, he'd indulged in everything he could think of, because why shouldn't he?]

You . . . did you . . . witness such an event for yourself?

No.

[It's quiet, but gentle. Her hesitation — even fear, perhaps — stings him with a sorrow that surprises even him; it's not that he didn't think she cared about him, of course, but she sounds so apprehensive about receiving the confirmation that he might have been present for one of those aforementioned orgies of cruelty, even with firsthand confirmation right in front of her that he'd survived it if he had.

So he seeks to comfort her. He speaks gently, and reassures her immediately before elaborating.]

Spirit World often turns a blind eye to crimes committed against demons, but these incidents were so heinous that even Spirit World couldn't feasibly ignore them. I caught wind of it through them — certainly that group of individuals are on Spirit World's figurative radar for a number of ongoing transgressions, not just those events.

[Thank god, and some of the tension eases out of her. Not all of it, no, but-- god, thank god, and Rosalind has to duck her head and focus on the pie for a moment, her fingers clenching and loosening, til she can get control of her expression once more.

And as she stares at nothing, she wonders at that confession. She'd known little of Makai, yes, but from the way he'd spoken of it before, she hadn't thought them some kind of-- of oppressed population. God, the way he'd spoken of Youko, he'd made it sound as though he was some kind of king, swaggering around, too powerful to ever be contained.]

Are you all so hated?

[Certainly the word demon doesn't bring much good to mind. But her world is entirely separate from his, and anyway, demons don't exist at all in her home. She'd assumed the rules were vastly different.]

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[Oh. Now that's a good question, isn't it? Are you all so hated, and the easy answer is no. No, of course not, certainly there are degrees of tolerance. Certainly a demon that causes no harm is at least judged differently than one who plots to harm humankind and overrun the earth.

And yet even as that kneejerk impulse passes through his mind, it occurs to him just how unlikely and naive an impulse it actually is. Why were two paroled demons sent to assist the Spirit Detective in his attempt to quell a rebellion and uprising? Certainly something like that couldn't reasonably be construed as "community service" on the part of Spirit World. Was it because they stood a high chance of success at best — and were expendable at worst?

And why, furthermore, did Koenma link their two sentences, so that any transgression on Hiei's part would be reflected back on him as well? His deeds have nothing to do with Hiei's. Not unless his selfish interest in his own freedom would incentivize him to control Hiei.

And Hiei was ready to kill humans for the sake of his sister. Why had Koenma moved? Was it really for Yukina's sake — or was it out of concern of what Hiei might do in the course of rescuing her?

Are demons all so hated?]

Hated, feared. Demons tend to be a fairly straightforward breed — immensely powerful, generally violent. In intelligence we tend to vary widely from little more than beasts to creatures with perception on the level of the human conception of gods.

But I don't know that we're inherently any more evil than humans are. A few humans have come to conclude that, thankfully, but not many, and they're few and far between.

[She isn't certain how to respond to that. I'm sorry? Only that's both pathetic and useless, even if she truly does feel the sentiment. I'm sorry your entire species is hated and feared, I can't possibly imagine-- no. He knows her well enough to see her sympathy and horror, and that's enough. Not every emotion needs to be articulated.]

I should think humanity a bit worse, frankly.

[Not that he's confessed every demonic crime. But Rosalind has seen too much of humanity's worst to ever think particularly fondly of the species as a whole. And frankly, there's something refreshingly straightforward about the label of violence, especially as a means to acquire power. It isn't good, but it's a far sight better than, say, something being mutilated and told it was for their own good.

Perhaps someday she'll tell him of the Handymen. Of the Firemen, of all of Fink's terrifying inventions, all the horrific little details that had made up day-to-day life in Columbia. But not today.]

. . . we've strayed a bit from pie-making, I think.

We have. But I think it comes full-circle, in terms of the scope of humanity.

[He offers her a faint smile, finishing up with the apples and then tipping the bowl toward her for a taste of the same.]

Your range, I think, is far wider in scope than demonkind's. Capable of far more cruelty, to be sure, but also sometimes...a model for how we could be better, as well.

You're speaking to the wrong twin if you'd like that perspective, Kurama.

[But her voice is a little brisker now. It's a tart reply, lighter and easier than the slow, somber replies she'd given before. Rosalind steals one more apple piece, humming softly in pleasure as the sweetness hits her tongue.]

Especially on the heels of thinking of Jeremiah Fink.

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